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Title: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 07, 2015, 06:16:41 pm
Collected my new cx-5 on Monday and apart from the stop start not working I'm really pleased with it.  I didnt haggle for fllor mats or anything but now i wish I did as theyre so expensive.  I bought a new set for my Z4 a couple of months ago and would you believe they fit the cx-5 perfectly, even got the cut around the accelerator pedal lol.  Anyone know of a good boot protector for our dog.

One other thing is the DRL's.  They are P13W where perhaps the main beam lights would normally go and they are dim yellow.  Ive seen on ebay the DRL's are on top of the fog lights.  Any suggestions
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on March 07, 2015, 08:46:12 pm
I bought the standard Mazda boot tray for mine, which keeps the boot floor clean, but doesn't keep dog hairs off the back of the rear seat. It was quite a cheap addition, can't remember exactly how much it was but remember being surprised that it was cheaper than expected. Less than ?40 if I remember correctly.

As far as I know, the standard DRL's are part of the headlamp. A lot of pictures in brochures, etc, showed the car with the optional extra LED ones that fit down near the front fog lights. I thought that was what was standard and was surprised when it wasn't supplied that way.

Alan.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: twabrigs on March 08, 2015, 05:42:15 pm
Also have the Mazda boot tray and it's worth the ?40 or so.

Are you sure the stop / start isn't working? If car is too hot / cold etc etc it doesn't operate (there's a page in the manual with about 30 criteria that need to be met for it to operate...
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 09, 2015, 10:23:55 pm

Thanks BigAl. think I'll just buy the fog & DRL moulding with single bar LED DRL which is also used as an indicator.

Thanks twabrigs,  Yea I'm a compulsive manual reader lol,  Ive been through everything so it looks like it needs resetting

Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 09, 2015, 10:31:33 pm
Only getting 34mpg atm, hope it improves with mileage
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on March 10, 2015, 09:43:34 am
It will, but don't expect it to reach the dizzying heights of the figures claimed. Mazda don't consider the engine to be run-in until it gets to 12.5k miles. I have the manual version of the 175 sport and - after 57,000 miles - have got to an overall measured average of just under 42MPG (don't rely on the trip computer average). 44-45 is quite achievable on a steady motorway run. Using Shell V Power diesel does seem to help. Plenty of discussion on this topic here http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=23.0 (http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=23.0)

Alan
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: DHZ7945 on March 22, 2015, 08:36:08 am
I couldn't decide which new car to buy this time around. (Currently own a Skoda Yeti 1.6 Greenline elegance). After looking at many Car for weeks and weeks Being the Outlander Phev, Quashqai, CRV, Sportage, IX35, Subaru XV even the CX-5 (but didn't like the stereo/Nav in the CX-5) or wait for the new cars for 2015 the Honda HRV, CX-3 or the Hyundai Tucson etc.

IN THE END

I ended up ordering the new facelifted CX-5 on Wednesday.
It should do similar Mpg to the Yeti but a lot quicker.
I ordered it via Carwow got a great deal on it too. so it comes from a dealer not a broker.
Looking forward to The new Bose Stereo/Nav and The new LED headlights and Drl's
It should give us some exclusivety for  awhile  :)

Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Gmsal on March 24, 2015, 03:19:32 pm
I couldn't decide which new car to buy this time around. (Currently own a Skoda Yeti 1.6 Greenline elegance). After looking at many Car for weeks and weeks Being the Outlander Phev, Quashqai, CRV, Sportage, IX35, Subaru XV even the CX-5 (but didn't like the stereo/Nav in the CX-5) or wait for the new cars for 2015 the Honda HRV, CX-3 or the Hyundai Tucson etc.

IN THE END

I ended up ordering the new facelifted CX-5 on Wednesday.
It should do similar Mpg to the Yeti but a lot quicker.
I ordered it via Carwow got a great deal on it too. so it comes from a dealer not a broker.
Looking forward to The new Bose Stereo/Nav and The new LED headlights and Drl's
It should give us some exclusivety for  awhile  :)

My first post, so hello everyone.
I have just picked up the new facelifted CX-5 yesterday.
I too ordered the 2.2 150ps 2WD Sports Nav Diesel.
Very pleased with it so far having changed from the VW Tiguan.
Getting lots of admiring looks :) :) :)

I'll post again soon on how I'm getting along with my new addition.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: skippa on March 26, 2015, 05:28:08 pm
Picked up my Sport Nav 2.2D (150) in pearlescent white yesterday. Its too early to give a meaningful review, but so far I'm absolutely delighted with the way it handles and runs - it looks great too. Polishes and wax are at the ready for when I've given it its first wash.

The only strange thing so far is that there doesn't seem to be an on off switch for the radio - only a mute button. Can anybody throw any light on this?

Happy, happy, happy!
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: chris2301 on March 27, 2015, 10:28:34 pm
We picked up our 2.0 sel facelift on Monday. My other half commented on not been able to turn the radio off too. You can turn the display to clock only but that looks silly. I will have a play this weekend when I give it its first wash and polish. Oh and ive ordered an sd card for the sat nav as ive been told it will work. Bonus.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 29, 2015, 01:01:59 pm
Updated the DRL's and LED headlights this weekend, looks brilliant. Also had the Mazda ugrade/update at Mazda Saturday & then I fitted a superchip giving 210 -230 bhp (adjustable) pulls incredibly well and much cleaner throttle, apparently gives a 10% fuel economy improvement, I'll give a report in a couple of weeks.  The stone leather with electric heated seats are real luxury especially in the cold period lol.  Just enquiring about having a sunroof fitted seen as I saved so much money on the deal I got getting this car.  Seem to get a lot of envious looks lol even off bmw x3 & x5's
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on March 30, 2015, 09:49:18 am
Will be very interested to hear how you get on with the chipset. I was considering one for mine a while back but, with it being a company car, it was looking a bit complicated insurance-wise as all our cars are on one group policy. I should be changing it in six months and - for the first time - I may have the same again, in which case a chipset might be worthwhile. During my early correspondence with Mazda regarding fuel consumption, I questioned how it was possible that small, third-part, manufacturers were able to produce a small and relatively cheap plug-in device which achieved something that the combined technical might of Mazda couldn't. I.E, achieve better MPG, power and torque. They waffled a bit about "standards" and "homologation", but never really answered properly...

Alan
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 30, 2015, 02:12:54 pm
Hi Alan

About 20 years ago I spoke to the owner of Superchip and eventually had one fitted to a Nissan 200SX.  It was mainly boost in those days.

Ive used them ever since, however nowadays its much more electronically controlled.  The CX-5 have two turbo's, (Honeywell’s TwoStage serial) one small high pressure for low rpm and one larger low pressure for higher rpm.  The Superchip manages these turbo's more effectively but more importantly controls the timing and delivery output of the fuel injectors and of course the ignition timing amongst other parameters.  The Superchip does not take over or effect the cars ECU but compliments it, hence the non void of warranty.

Car manufacturers are contolled by the EU environmental regulations which means that the vehicle is tested at certain rpm, that does not mean that it is more efficient but only lower emissions at those rpm.  The Superchip increases efficiency by 5 - 10%. 

In English: You will find that you do not have to press the accelerator as far to get the same performance and speed.

Although saying this, if you have a constant heavy right foot........
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Silver Bullet on March 30, 2015, 05:26:08 pm
Hi Zoomer,

As I posted elsewhere on this Forum some time ago,

Are you sure that the installation of a blue spark tuning box (or in your case a Superchip) won't invalidate your vehicle insurance & / or manufacturer's warranty ? 

For many years I worked in the field of engine failure investigation / diagnostics and, on occasions, I wrote Expert reports for County Court / NCS & Arbitration that identified the fitting of non-standard (tuning) parts to a failed engine as a major contributory factor to the cause of the engine's demise.  In a number of such cases the insurance underwriter's decided they were not obliged to bear the claim as the insured party had not informed them of the modifications...   Likewise, if the engine fails while under warranty ( for whatever other reason) the manufacturer could argue that the Warranty Terms & Conditions had been breached..  If you have not already done so, I would strongly suggest that you ask both your insurer and Mazda UK to confirm in writing that such a "non-standard" device can be installed without breaching their T&C's  ...
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on March 30, 2015, 05:27:30 pm
Interesting. I did know it was a Honeywell turbo as the engineer showed me mine when it failed due to a blocked oil way. I was told it was a "brand new design, first of its type" since Honeywell took over Garrett. Didn't know there were two of them, though.

I'd considered a plug in box when I had the original fuel consumption issues - as it improved it became less of a priority, though. Any chance of a photo of where it goes/plugs in/what it look like? What did it do to your insurance cost?

Alan
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 30, 2015, 08:46:18 pm
Intresting about the warranty Silver Bullet, I checked the tuning company's policy but could not find the warranty description apart from its own product warranty and then I found this "Once removed, there are no traces left behind that could affect your manufacturers warranty".  If you have an accident it could be awkward if injured etc

I will check with Mazda tomorrow.

My Insurance said (phone call) that there was no fee increase, but like you say, its best to get that in writing which is what I'll do.

Best I keep quite until I find out lol

There is a video of installation Alan:  http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/how2s.php  although the CX-5 is not listed, its the same principle.  When I get a minute I'll take a re-run video of the fitment I did.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Willpower on March 30, 2015, 11:57:30 pm

"Once removed, there are no traces left behind that could affect your manufacturers warranty". If you have an accident it could be awkward if injured etc


To me that's effectively saying "We know it could invalidate your warranty, so we strongly suggest that if you are involved in an accident then remove the chip immediately"

That's Ok if you are involved in a small bump or shunt and you go home. But if it was anything more serious and it happened that the car was impounded, then removing it after the event, would be impossible
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 31, 2015, 09:40:16 am
I phoned Mazda this morning and they are saying its a bit of a grey area.  They support the idea of a more efficient upgrade but this can open to all types of abuse.

They will not (or cannot) give in writing confirmation of non void of warranty at this stage.

I supose this is ok if your car is out of warranty, but not new.  Even so, I'll take the chance.

The insurance company are sending a written statement to confirm full cover.

Went for a long run early this morning, amazing how strongly it pulls, then put my sensible head on and reset the mpg.  Over a distance of 62 miles it has changed from 34 to 38mpg using the same route. Taking into consideration its still running in, things are looking good.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on March 31, 2015, 01:29:41 pm
For what its worth, the letter below is one of the many responses I got from Mazda early on. Paragraph 4 is their response to this direct question I raised about chipsets -
You have stated that there is nothing that can be tuned or adjusted that will make any difference to fuel consumption. Yet I have been able to find three different suppliers who manufacture plug-in engine management units for the CX5, all of which promise a 15% improvement in MPG, plus increases in torque and HP. How is it possible that a third party can produce a solution to this that Mazda can’t? I calculate that if I were to buy one and fit it (being aware that it may affect the insurance), it would pay for itself in less than 12,000 miles.
Interestingly, although they recommended against the use, they never at any point say that using one would invalidate the warranty.
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/alan85/Mazda%20CX-5/scan0001_zpskz2hod3m.jpg)
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: zoomer on March 31, 2015, 11:44:14 pm
Hey Al

sent a message to Mazda facebook:

"Mazda UK Dear Mr ..........., We can confirm fitting a blue chip will not invalidate the warranty on your Mazda, however; if a particular issue were to occur as a direct result of its fitment, then an individual claim may be declined. I hope this clarifies the situation but feel free to call us on 03457 48 48 48 if you have any further questions, thank you."

And of course that means if anything goes wrong they will blame the chip lol

Meanwhile, I'm getting 41mpg now.  Doing a 700 mile round trip at the weekend, motorway mainly, so I'll keep an eye on it
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Gmsal on April 02, 2015, 08:55:01 pm
Ok, back on thread.
Picked up my new face lifted CX-5 on 23rd March, changing from a VW 140 4motion Tiguan. When I bought the Mazda I wasn't sure I had done the right thing.

I initially thought of buying a 15 reg Tiguan but several things stopped me from doing that;

1. It would felt like a change for change's sake.

2. I knew a new model Tiguan would be coming out soon, therefore devaluing the current model Tiguan.
This also was a factor in not keeping the Tiguan I had.

3. VW's lethargy introducing new technology into their vehicles.

4. Cost of VW add on's. I was quoted more than £700 for GAP insurance, a real rip off, that dealership should be ashamed.

I had read some very good reviews on the CX-5, it was recommended by a friend of mine, and I had two test drives to make my mind up.
I had also heard it had been face lifted and gave it serious consideration.

What I didn't like and thought I would miss;
1. Lack of roof rails, they makes the vehicle look so classy, and in my case very functional when transporting bikes.
2. Lack of spare tyre.
3. Wasn't sure it would fit in the garage.
4. Non too sure about key less entry.

On the flip side car against car it would have cost me an additional £6000 to get the extras I have on the CX-5 if I specked up a Tiguan.
So I ended up buying the Sports Nav 2.2, 2WD diesel 150 psi with GAP insurance, tyre and alloy insurance included in the price, after hard bartering  plus a service plan at a very reasonable price.

All VW's are very well built, robust and heavy due to quality materials. The CX-5 is no VW when it comes to body work, lighter materials may I suggest a little flimsier but it leaves the Tiguan miles behind it's engine and gear box are a delight. Plus the new face lift interior is great and a nice place to be.

So back to the start of the post, I wasn't sure that I did the right thing changing.
Having been on a few long runs I'm delighted at the handling, driving comfort and the ride.
You can read all the reviews in the world on a certain car, but only you know if you bond with the vehicle, but that comes with time.
I feel that we are starting to bond, strange that, human and machine bonding!

It looks very sporty and gets admiring looks, the Tiguan looks very conservative. and the CX-5 moves when you want it to.

Fuel wise better than the Tig, and will get better as it gets run in.
Of course you'll never achieve the test lab figures all manufactures produce, but if I get upper 40's which I fully expect I'll be more than happy.

That's where I am with 300 plus miles on the clock.
Love the satnav, the Bose speakers, the LED running lights, the leather seats, massive boot space, 19" gunmetal wheels etc etc.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on April 02, 2015, 11:36:00 pm
Interesting to hear the comparison with the Tiguan. When I changed cars in 2009, the final two were the Tiguan and the Subaru Forester - the Forester won. In 2012, same process, final two were the Tiguan and the CX5. The CX5 won by a bigger margin than the Forester did. At the moment, there is nothing to match it as it's so tax efficient as a company car (although the new 2.0 Diesel engine in the Discovery Sport is going to have lower emissions).

One thing I have learned is never to buy gap insurance through a dealer. I think we paid about £235 each for ours to cover three years at work via our insurance broker.

Alan.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Gmsal on April 03, 2015, 08:19:06 pm
Interesting to hear the comparison with the Tiguan. When I changed cars in 2009, the final two were the Tiguan and the Subaru Forester - the Forester won. In 2012, same process, final two were the Tiguan and the CX5. The CX5 won by a bigger margin than the Forester did. At the moment, there is nothing to match it as it's so tax efficient as a company car (although the new 2.0 Diesel engine in the Discovery Sport is going to have lower emissions).

One thing I have learned is never to buy gap insurance through a dealer. I think we paid about £235 each for ours to cover three years at work via our insurance broker.

Alan.
It seem we've both come to the same conclusion in roundabout ways re the CX-5 over the Tiguan.
What won you over the most between the two Al?
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: BigAl on April 04, 2015, 06:53:00 pm
As mine is a company car, the primary thing for me was the CO2 emissions and fuel consumption. The CX5 wins hands down on both counts. The fact that it drives better as well obviously helps. The Tiguan has the traditional 4x4 roll that the CX5 lacks. The CX5 also - for me at least - had the best distribution of interior space and was better equipped than the VW.

A minor consideration was that I have two Honda CX motorbikes, adding a third CX seemed logical...

Alan
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Gmsal on April 05, 2015, 08:06:41 am
As mine is a company car, the primary thing for me was the CO2 emissions and fuel consumption. The CX5 wins hands down on both counts. The fact that it drives better as well obviously helps. The Tiguan has the traditional 4x4 roll that the CX5 lacks. The CX5 also - for me at least - had the best distribution of interior space and was better equipped than the VW.

A minor consideration was that I have two Honda CX motorbikes, adding a third CX seemed logical...

Alan
:) :) :) :)
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Fangface on April 09, 2015, 01:35:02 pm
Has anyone actually fitted and used a tuner box on a new 2015 model?  I am due to pick my one up next week and know that it would be sensible to run it in a bit before thinking about putting a tuner box in but I have heard conflicting reports that Mazda have designed things now to stop people doing this by having security bolts protecting where you would plug in and also using non standard connectors.  If I had the vehicle I would have a look myself and likely will next week but I thought I would ask the question to see if anyone has taken the plunge yet.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: Southern Teuchter on June 17, 2016, 04:42:02 pm
One thing I have learned is never to buy gap insurance through a dealer. I think we paid about £235 each for ours to cover three years at work via our insurance broker.

I was offered 3 years RTI (Return To Invoice - i.e. they pay out up to the original price paid) GAP insurance by the dealer for £300.  I bought 4 years New Car (i.e. it allows for the prices going up) GAP insurance for £220 online.  For some reason the dealer couldn't understand why I wouldn't buy it off him...
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: xtrailman on June 19, 2016, 12:35:25 pm
I've read that comprehensive insurance often replaces the car with a replacement in the first year. So really you don't need gap from new.
Title: Re: new cx-5
Post by: FireDiamondUK on January 18, 2017, 03:26:13 pm
In the process of looking for a second hand CX-5 at the moment and when talking to Availablecar at their site about one they had there they tried to sell me GAP on a used car! Then was a bit affronted when i said i wasnt interested and pointed out there isnt really a loss of value on a used car... Was very surprised at trying to be sold gap on a used car. (used to work at a main dealer so know all about GAP)