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General Category => CX-5 => Topic started by: Ottoman on October 26, 2016, 01:05:16 pm
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I'm new to this forum so hello to everybody.
I've heard that there's a new model CX 5 due out in 2017. Does anybody know if this is true and if so, when we are likely to see it in 2017.
Thanks
Ottoman
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Hi and welcome!
That's what had been heard, no further news AFAIK at the moment. See -
http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=499.msg3648#msg3648 (http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=499.msg3648#msg3648)
Alan
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Thanks, I have a mate looking at buying a new one but doesn't know whether to take the plunge or wait for the new model if it's not too far off.
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Been announced in the past couple of hours or so that the all new CX5 will make its global debut at the LA motor show on 16th November.
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Thanks, I'll keep my eye out for that one.
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2.5 litre petrol turbo by any chance? Would be nice to see but maybe only seeing in UK when cx9 arrives
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2.5 litre petrol turbo by any chance? Would be nice to see but maybe only seeing in UK when cx9 arrives
Would be very nice, I'm hoping manufacturers are slowly losing their infatuation with diesel engines.
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Well, some of the VED advantage of diesels will disappear next April...
Alan
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...here's Jonnyyyy!!!
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/cx-5/97716/new-mazda-cx-5-la-motor-show-reveal (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/cx-5/97716/new-mazda-cx-5-la-motor-show-reveal)
I like! And I'm assuming that the screen may be a mock up showing the current MZD Connect as I believe that's being "replaced"
Alan
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Oh no, looks like Mazda are following the modern trend of locating the MZD screen on top of the dashboard. It's all a matter of personal taste I realise but in several Mercedes models the fitting of the screen in this position looks like an afterthought - ah look, we forgot to mount this whatsit - I know, lets stick it here. ;)
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Oh no, looks like Mazda are following the modern trend of locating the MZD screen on top of the dashboard.
It matches the Mazda 3 and the CX3, so shouldn't be surprised really. Look on the bright side - it stops stuff rolling off the dashboard! ::)
Alan
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Mmm think I'm with Deeps on this one, not really a fan of the screen sitting on dash, now if it was retractable that would be cool, had a taste with 2014 mazda3,
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I think Diesel Car said that we will get it in summer 2017. same engines as before, sounds like more of a facelift than new model.
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Any more info on the 2.5 petrol version? If Mazda offer it in the U.K. I'll buy it but can't see me going for a derv one now the War On Diesel is gaining ground.
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Latest pic of 2017 model against existing http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/98763/new-mazda-cx-5-2017-review-pictures#15 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/98763/new-mazda-cx-5-2017-review-pictures#15)
Alan
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Mmm think I'm with Deeps on this one, not really a fan of the screen sitting on dash, now if it was retractable that would be cool, had a taste with 2014 mazda3,
Yup me too they really look like an after thought sat on the dash. At least it has two cup holders!!
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Really liking the front look, a bit like the jag suv, but I guess half the price. I wish I'd held back now but hey, motorists in the UK are really spoilt for choice
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Its now on the Mazda UK website...
https://www.mazda.co.uk/cars/all-new-mazda-cx-5/ (https://www.mazda.co.uk/cars/all-new-mazda-cx-5/)
Alan
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Looks as though they've gone back to the honeycombed grill which, along with the info screen that appears to be an afterthought although seemingly popular across several makes, I'm not too keen on.
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Pity the petrol is still only 2.0 and no AWD, given the way things are heading with diesel vehicles in the UK.
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I dont think diesels will die on suv's and big luxury cars as that extra low down torque is essential to give a good throttle response on large unaerodynamic vehicles. Where diesels will disappear iss on the smaller runabout type cars and they will probably get small turbocharged petrol engines until electric is more usable and practical. Although the headlines keep talking about charging to drive your diesel in cities there has been no talk of charging for newer cleaner diesels to enter cities only older dirty ones, so i think people will still buy new larger diesels for a while yet.
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I think I agree with that, although the other thing making me think twice about diesels is the dread DPF issue for diesels generally, and the 'supposedly fixed' rising oil nonsense specifically with Mazda.
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The method of burning of particulates is the same for all makes of cars so the method of injecting diesel on the exhaust stroke does work well. The problem for all cars comes from doing short runs and continually stopping before the process has completed leading to oil dilution. There are a few cars though that inject the diesel straight into the exhaust manifold so it doesn't dilute the oil but it obviously needs an extra injector and control equipment so it's more expensive. So the thing is you have to do plenty of long runs to run a modern diesel and then it should be ok.
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Bumped into the salesman who I dealt with on buying the CX-5 whilst fueling up yesterday. He was eager to hand me an advertising newspaper which consisted of all the latest reviews of the new model. In fairness, all reviews are positive but that's hardly surprising really as the newer model is essentially a makeover of the current version with less hard plastic, better quality leather for the top of the range and a few other bits and bobs.
The nitty gritty i.e. engine variants, transmission and gearbox remain the same which surprises me somewhat as I would have thought that Mazda would have gone along the AdBlue route with this latest creation and not stuck to the present method which result in emissions that some might say are questionable and not to mention the ongoing diesel in the oil pan.
The 'A' post is slightly more raked along with a lower roof line which results in giving a longer bonnet line but from what I observe from various images is that they still haven't placed any sensors closer to the corners of the vehicle which along with the limited view offered by the front and rear pillars I find particularly disappointing.
I shall pop into the dealer next week sometime as that is when it's due in the showroom here in southern Germany and give it a closer inspection. In all probability I won't be giving it a test drive as with the same engine/gearbox offerings there won't be a lot to be gained imho. And no, I won't be buying it as I've barely run-in my present CX-5 and although a couple of the upgrades are nice e.g. the better arm rest design, there's simply not enough to justify the costs of trading in.
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The brochure is on the Mazda website if anyone fancies a look.
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Bumped into the salesman who I dealt with on buying the CX-5 whilst fueling up yesterday. He was eager to hand me an advertising newspaper which consisted of all the latest reviews of the new model. In fairness, all reviews are positive but that's hardly surprising really as the newer model is essentially a makeover of the current version with less hard plastic, better quality leather for the top of the range and a few other bits and bobs.
The nitty gritty i.e. engine variants, transmission and gearbox remain the same which surprises me somewhat as I would have thought that Mazda would have gone along the AdBlue route with this latest creation and not stuck to the present method which result in emissions that some might say are questionable and not to mention the ongoing diesel in the oil pan.
The 'A' post is slightly more raked along with a lower roof line which results in giving a longer bonnet line but from what I observe from various images is that they still haven't placed any sensors closer to the corners of the vehicle which along with the limited view offered by the front and rear pillars I find particularly disappointing.
I shall pop into the dealer next week sometime as that is when it's due in the showroom here in southern Germany and give it a closer inspection. In all probability I won't be giving it a test drive as with the same engine/gearbox offerings there won't be a lot to be gained imho. And no, I won't be buying it as I've barely run-in my present CX-5 and although a couple of the upgrades are nice e.g. the better arm rest design, there's simply not enough to justify the costs of trading in.
Just a technical note the ad blue route is used to reduce NOx but the skyactiv engine apparently doesn't need it to meet the spec. It has nothing to do with burning off particulate in the DPF by injecting diesel on the exhaust stroke and all manufacturers do this. Some though inject the diesel straight into the exhaust manifold using a separate injector in the exhaust and so obviously this would not result in dilution of oil in the sump but it requires a separate injector and control equipment so is a lot more expensive but in my view would stop people worrying about oil dilution.
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Just a technical note the ad blue route is used to reduce NOx but the skyactiv engine apparently doesn't need it to meet the spec. ........Some though inject the diesel straight into the exhaust manifold using a separate injector in the exhaust and so obviously this would not result in dilution of oil in the sump but it requires a separate injector and control equipment so is a lot more expensive but in my view would stop people worrying about oil dilution.
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Well maybe not JUST the worry of oil dilution. They are going to introduce a diesel ban in the capital city of my home State in 2018 for diesels not meeting the Euro6 standard and even then there is talk of reassessing even these to see whether or not they meet the standard in everyday driving. Along with that, some States countrywide are pressing for the introduction of the Blue sticker. That said, manufacturers are at this moment, under pressure from State governments, assessing whether it is possible to make modifications - even going above simple software updates in the case of some vehicles - to bring them into line with the Euro 6 standard in order to make this diesel ban unnecessary. We are talking about several million vehicles here with pressure being placed upon manufacturers to make these modifications at their own expense. We'll see.
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Having had a read through of the info on the new model, one thing I found disappointing was the range of colours available. I've had a zeal red and a soul red: if I had another it probably wouldn't be red and the other choices aren't that inspiring. Or is it just me... :-\
Alan
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As mentioned in another thread, today (Friday) presented the first viewing of the 2017 version of the CX5 in our showrooms.
First impressions - somewhat mixed really with a few nice features being either added or modified whilst other modifications such as the relocated MZD don't impress me personally.
From the front the car looks really attractive with a lot of the design being adopted from other Mazda models. The additional chrome around the rear quarter windows look nice but are not something that I would willingly pay extra for.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Front%20View_zpssfy4qcdw.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Front%20View_zpssfy4qcdw.jpg.html)
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Outside%20front_zpsrz78svd9.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Outside%20front_zpsrz78svd9.jpg.html)
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Outside%20left%20hand%20side_zps5sc8csri.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Outside%20left%20hand%20side_zps5sc8csri.jpg.html)
The interior has had a bit of a makeover with at long last an arm rest being installed that is usable by the driver. With the current model I find it located far too much to the rear. Additionally, there is a useful little tray in which to place the Smartphone and charging facility.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Interior%20from%20drivers%20side_zpsbgxrbfxx.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Interior%20from%20drivers%20side_zpsbgxrbfxx.jpg.html)
I do like the reshaped fuel lid which also feels a lot more solid when rapped with the knuckles. The current model lid has always given me the impression that it was constructed from old bake bean cans lol.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Fuel%20cap%20closed_zpscjipdjnz.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Fuel%20cap%20closed_zpscjipdjnz.jpg.html)
And look what is revealed when one pops the lid. The salesperson really couldn't offer an explanation for the blanking plug to the right of the fuelling cap and I wonder if perhaps Mazda have it in there minds to introduce an AdBlue tank for subsequent updates to the model. An alternative view of course is that in some markets an AdBlue tank is already fitted.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Fuel%20Cap_zps6vvxw3sz.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Fuel%20Cap_zps6vvxw3sz.jpg.html)
Whilst on the subject of fuel caps, I also like the relocated fuel cap release which is now situated next to the bonnet release and not on the floor.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Fuel%20cap%20release_zpsi8g9k64g.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Fuel%20cap%20release_zpsi8g9k64g.jpg.html)
I almost missed the updated wing mirrors and whilst the overall shape remains visually to be the same, one is hard pushed to notice the indicator repeaters that are nicely slotted in between the upper white part of the mirror and the lower black section. In fact, on the adjoining car which was a grey colour the transition was even harder to make out.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww248/Alan_Ingham/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Mirror%20White_zpsaoxcudji.jpg) (http://s724.photobucket.com/user/Alan_Ingham/media/Mazda%20CX5%202017/Mirror%20White_zpsaoxcudji.jpg.html)
It should be noted that the advertised HUD (Head Up Display) is somewhat confusing. On the standard and middle version of the vehicle it is a small pop-up window that appears on top of the dash in front of the driver. For the truly HUD feeling one has to invest in the top of the range model. I only got to see this on a demonstrator that was undergoing having transfers and the like being affixed in the underground garage and so it was far too dark to take reasonable pictures with my Smartphone. However, for those, like me, who perhaps have never experienced the HUD feature it really is quite unusual. I fully expected the cars reading to appear on the windscreen directly in front of me which in reality it does of course. That said, the projection is such that one has the feeling of reading numerals that are located some way in the distance and are part of another car. It's a bit like reading another vehicles number plate that is in front of you when waiting at the traffic lights. Strange indeed.
Summary. There's not enough here to make me want to rush out to the bank and draw out a heap of money to replace my current late 2015 model. That said, with a price increase of only approx three hundred Euro's over the past two years, it certainly does awake ones interest.
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Thanks for the 'heads up' Deeps.!
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And look what is revealed when one pops the lid. The salesperson really couldn't offer an explanation for the blanking plug to the right of the fuelling cap and I wonder if perhaps Mazda have it in there minds to introduce an AdBlue tank for subsequent updates to the model. An alternative view of course is that in some markets an AdBlue tank is already fitted.
Sounds likely - the old CX7 2.2D I believe was fitted with an Adblue system?
And if we are playing spot the difference, I reckon the whale tail antenna is bigger?
Alan
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On the Mazda.co.uk configurator, you cannot select the safety pack if you elect to have a Petrol CX-5. Hopefully this is just an error of the configurator, otherwise will be bizarre restriction.
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Had the brochure for the new CX-5 through the door today, confirms that the Safety Pack is only available for Diesel Sport Nav model not Petrol Sport Nav - makes no sense to me.
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I'm back....
I've got mine, picked it up Weds 21st. Better car altogether despite the outgoing model being fantastic.
Loads quieter, seats more comfortable and steering more precise.
I absolutely love it! If there's to be a downside then it's the infotainment system, I won't go into it in any detail but suffice to say despite my disputes with TomTom on my last one and although said TomTom was clunky it was more intuitive.
Alex.
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Hi Alex. Glad you're enjoying the new model even more - something for me to look forward to in a year or so.
Re the Infotainment system, what version of the software did it come set up with? And has the dealer made any comments about any update to provide Android Auto?
Thanks.
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Hi Alex. Glad you're enjoying the new model even more - something for me to look forward to in a year or so.
Re the Infotainment system, what version of the software did it come set up with? And has the dealer made any comments about any update to provide Android Auto? Thanks.
Not sure of version number, I put the card into my laptop added the Info programme and registered and immediately was given a huge update. The only Android I have is the connectivity with my Galaxy 4 on Bluetooth.
I've set myself up with the home Wi-Fi and I'm assuming the "Live Traffic" is via the phone on Bluetooth, but have had very little evidence that it actually works.
Car is far superior to what was already an excellent vehicle.
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I have got one, picked it up a week ago. A significant improvement on the previous model, most notably MUCH quieter. Still the crappy sat-nav though.
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Had the brochure for the new CX-5 through the door today, confirms that the Safety Pack is only available for Diesel Sport Nav model not Petrol Sport Nav - makes no sense to me.
Visited dealer and they confirm Safety Park not available for Petrol Sport Nav YET. They said Mazda seriously underestimated the changed demand in UK for Petrol models over Diesel and the Safety Park will become available, together with other options on Petrol versions in Feb 2018.
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Is anyone else not too keen on the wheel design on the new Sport Nav? To me, they've managed design an alloy that looks more like a wheel trim! I prefer the design on the previous model.
In every other respect though, I think the new car looks better than the model it replaces.
There's an 'Airdam kit' available now that adds a very slight extension to the plastic trims around the bottom of the car and incorporates a satin silver highlight. Looked good on the model I saw at the dealers. Not cheap though - list price is over £700 without fitting!
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Hi Alex. Glad you're enjoying the new model even more - something for me to look forward to in a year or so.
Re the Infotainment system, what version of the software did it come set up with? And has the dealer made any comments about any update to provide Android Auto?
Thanks.
Nothing on connectivity with Andriod or Apple as yet (apart from Bluetooth of course) I spoke to Head Office and the lass told me they have been promising this since 2014, and awaiting Japan to get it together.
Software version on Nav, I was on 460 now updated by dealer to 503 and apart from dab radio telling me what Im listening to, can't say I see much difference.
I have tethered my phone as a "Hotspot" but to date the traffic info doesn't bode too well.
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Having had my new model CX-5 for over a month and 1500 miles I am able to report the following. It is significantly quieter and this leads to a much more relaxed drive. The seats are more comfortable with better lumbar support. The active LED headlights are amazing. I really thought I'd be dazzling other drivers but I haven't been flashed once, so probably I'm not. The Bose sound system is excellent IMHO. The lane assist isn't intrusive and does its job very well when set on 'late intervention' but is a bit irritating on 'early intervention'. The blind spot monitor is genuinely useful. The DAB radio works well.
The only real negative is, inevitably, the sat nav. Having to turn your phone into a wi fi hotspot to get live traffic is really irritating. It wouldn't be so bad if it reliably connected but it is really hit and miss, so every time you stop on a long journey you have to faff about getting the wi fi to reconnect—think 5 minutes. Also the live traffic only seems to know about relatively major routes. It completely failed to tell me that the M3 and A3 were both closed for routine maintenance one night, both routes were marked green on the map. Grrrr...
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The only real negative is, inevitably, the sat nav. Having to turn your phone into a wi fi hotspot to get live traffic is really irritating. It wouldn't be so bad if it reliably connected but it is really hit and miss, so every time you stop on a long journey you have to faff about getting the wi fi to reconnect—think 5 minutes. Also the live traffic only seems to know about relatively major routes. It completely failed to tell me that the M3 and A3 were both closed for routine maintenance one night, both routes were marked green on the map. Grrrr...
This has been an issue since the introduction of the MZD system on the MK2 model. I wouldn't recommend anyone taking out a subscription to this service - I did, and finished up getting a full refund for it. Yes, it works, but connecting it is a complete and total PITA! I just can't understand why anyone in possession of more than 10 brain cells would have thought that this system was better than the old TomTom/GSM system? I've written to Mazda several times about this; you know, trying to be helpful. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but they don't seem to want to listen to their customers. Mines due for replacement next year and this system is the one thing which will put me off having another (my third).
Alan
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The only real negative is, inevitably, the sat nav. Having to turn your phone into a wi fi hotspot to get live traffic is really irritating. It wouldn't be so bad if it reliably connected but it is really hit and miss, so every time you stop on a long journey you have to faff about getting the wi fi to reconnect—think 5 minutes. Also the live traffic only seems to know about relatively major routes. It completely failed to tell me that the M3 and A3 were both closed for routine maintenance one night, both routes were marked green on the map. Grrrr...
This has been an issue since the introduction of the MZD system on the MK2 model. I wouldn't recommend anyone taking out a subscription to this service - I did, and finished up getting a full refund for it. Yes, it works, but connecting it is a complete and total PITA! I just can't understand why anyone in possession of more than 10 brain cells would have thought that this system was better than the old TomTom/GSM system? I've written to Mazda several times about this; you know, trying to be helpful. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but they don't seem to want to listen to their customers. Mines due for replacement next year and this system is the one thing which will put me off having another (my third).
Alan
I have taken the plunge and paid to renew the subscription, worked out at £120 for 3 years, so at £40-pa cheaper than TomTom but nowhere near as good.
Being a paid up user give me the right to moan and lean on them for improvements, and if not then I'll be looking for a refund. The "Live Traffic" is dreadful, it doesn't show roads that are closed, it tells me of hold-ups that don't exist and as for tethering the phone, nightmare - but I did add an app to the phone which mages the process a little easier.
Time will tell.
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Getting my new Sport Nav CX5 AWD diesel and really looking forward to it. Did a test drive and found it really great, comfortable and easy to drive. Quieter than my present CX5. However, this is my third sport nav and still having to rely on Garmin as a back up - where are their brains? To make things even worse I did software update three weeks ago and during visit to London, keyed in Brent Cross Shopping Centre. Taken to literally outside Houses of Parliament. On return to Yorkshire did simulated trip and it did the same. Needed address in Doncaster and it took me right into town center instead to required address on the outskirts. Nobody able to resolve issue. Am seriously hoping that the new CX5 will not have the same problems as I travel up and down Europe a great deal
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Getting my new Sport Nav CX5 AWD diesel and really looking forward to it. Did a test drive and found it really great, comfortable and easy to drive. Quieter than my present CX5. However, this is my third sport nav and still having to rely on Garmin as a back up - where are their brains? To make things even worse I did software update three weeks ago and during visit to London, keyed in Brent Cross Shopping Centre. Taken to literally outside Houses of Parliament. On return to Yorkshire did simulated trip and it did the same. Needed address in Doncaster and it took me right into town center instead to required address on the outskirts. Nobody able to resolve issue. Am seriously hoping that the new CX5 will not have the same problems as I travel up and down Europe a great deal
I have found that for addresses that don't have a house number it helps to scroll down and click the 'Select Road' (I may have that wrong as I'm not near the car) and use the cross-hairs to select where you want to go.
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Picked up my new CX-5 last week. Ex-demo with all the bells and whistles (safety pack, full airdam kit, soul red crystal, AWD etc). Dream to drive, lights superb feature. Have not tried sat nav yet but with Mazda history I will continue to carry my Garmin with me. Yes, sat nav unit that withdraws into dashboard would have been great as would some arrangement for dash cam.
Had Alloygaters fitted to protect alloys as I get dizzy every time I think how much repair cost may be if needed. Never needed it up to now but had Alloygaters on cars for the past 7 years and know that the day I decide not to have them, something nasty will happen.
Took out GAP insurance for £156 only to have Mazda finance ring me next day to offer it for £295!!!
Roof rack arrangement on new CX-5 too silly for words; roof strip has to be removed and replaced with different strip costing about £20. Then you can either have side rails fitted on which roof rack will be fixed - total cost about £500 or just roof rack for £180. Talking about use and abuse...
Unfortunately, now I find that my roof rack (18 months old!!) does not fit and with airdam kit, side bar steps no use either.
But, having said all that, I love it and am pleased I got it
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Just a technical note the ad blue route is used to reduce NOx but the skyactiv engine apparently doesn't need it to meet the spec. ........Some though inject the diesel straight into the exhaust manifold using a separate injector in the exhaust and so obviously this would not result in dilution of oil in the sump but it requires a separate injector and control equipment so is a lot more expensive but in my view would stop people worrying about oil dilution.
Well maybe not JUST the worry of oil dilution. They are going to introduce a diesel ban in the capital city of my home State in 2018 for diesels not meeting the Euro6 standard and even then there is talk of reassessing even these to see whether or not they meet the standard in everyday driving. Along with that, some States countrywide are pressing for the introduction of the Blue sticker. That said, manufacturers are at this moment, under pressure from State governments, assessing whether it is possible to make modifications - even going above simple software updates in the case of some vehicles - to bring them into line with the Euro 6 standard in order to make this diesel ban unnecessary. We are talking about several million vehicles here with pressure being placed upon manufacturers to make these modifications at their own expense. We'll see.
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Did some research online and found a lot of data about NOx and CO2 emissions from the CX5 diesel. Seems the real emissions of NOx are a lot closer to the official test levels than most cars on the road. The Mazda uses Low Compression ratios as a unique part of their solution.
Unfortunately it also has one of the worst real world CO2 emissions - around 40% worse, which ties in well with my real MPG figures. Anyone claiming to achieve the official figures must be driving very cautiously.
Good job Road Tax is based on test CO2!
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You must be located in Germany as I am Mike. Remind me please, how long has this saga regarding the blue sticker been going on for now LOL. And with respect to 'hardware' updates - well that summit of all summits in Berlin not all that long ago didn't see much motion in that direction. Good old Winfred :-)
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Not Germany. If you didn't recognise the flag I am in the Isle of Man (Insel Mann) .
I ordered something from Amazon recently which was shipped from Berlin and they realised exactly where I was. We have German road signs and police during the TT races.
I was referring to limitations in London where I used to live.
I believe France also has restrictions nowadays.
One thing we have in the Isle of Man in common with Germany is unlimited speed, but here any road with no signs has no speed limit. I have plenty of opportunity to give my CX5 a chance to use its full performance.
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Not Germany. If you didn't recognise the flag I am in the Isle of Man (Insel Mann) .
Ah, OK. It was the 'some States countrywide' bit in your earlier post that threw me.