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Title: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on March 25, 2015, 09:57:24 pm
Hi guys and gals. I'm a newbie to the forum and have just taken delivery of a 2.0sel facelift. I have been told that if you insert a sd card into the slot the sat nav will work. I need to know the part no of the sd card that I need. I have searched ebay and there are many different part numbers available from different models. Will any work or do I need a specific card. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: BigAl on March 26, 2015, 10:07:11 am
As it happens, I've just pulled the SD card on mine to update it - the info on mine says

Europe 2012
KD51 66 EZ1

Have just googled that and there seems to be a few on sale on eBay, etc, including some which appear to be later versions. They all carry the Mazda logo and say "Maps by TomTom" on them. I think I'd be inclined to find someone who has one that you can try before shelling out, though. I believe the SE-L doesn't have sat-nav as standard, so whilst it may have the card reader, it may not have the "modules" that run the sat nav and the 3G connection that is part of the TomTom Live system. Mine is a 2012 model anyway, which has the button either side of the screen and around the joystick; I assume you are talking about the MZDconnect system which is on the 2015 facelift model?

I don't know this for certain; I think that is just the cynic in me assuming that it couldn't be as easy as just buying the card for ~?50 and it working straight away when plugged in!

Alan
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on March 26, 2015, 10:20:25 pm
Thanks BigAl. I have all of the controls and when you go to the nav screen it says it can be added by going to your dealer. The salesman did say it would work by just adding the sd card. I have also been talking to one of the sellers on ebay and he too confirms your part number. So here goes lets buy an sd card and hope for the best. I can always sell it on if it doesent work. Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: BigAl on March 27, 2015, 10:56:34 am
Great, let us know how it works out!

Alan
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on March 27, 2015, 10:01:55 pm
I will thanks. So do you have a cx500b and a cx650 then What about a turbo? sorry obrut.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: BigAl on March 27, 2015, 11:31:06 pm
Aha, well spotted. Yes, both 1983 models, the 500 is a standard "maggot", the 650 is a US spec custom, never sold in the UK. Lusted after an obruT for years, never had one, never rode one. Some good ones still about but parts for them are almost impossible to obtain. I'm a long time member of the CX-GL MCC, we have about 300 or so UK members plus another 100 or so worldwide.

Alan.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on April 06, 2015, 09:31:02 am
So a 2014 sat nav card (tom tom) wont work in a 2015 facelift car. They've changed the mapping supplier. Im trying to find out the part number of the most recent card if anyone has a 2015 facelift model with nav. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on April 06, 2015, 09:33:23 am
Big Al. I worked in the motorcycle trade a couple of times but not as early as cx's. I do remember them though. A neighbour had a b and a friend had a silverwing. ive only seen ever one turbo.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: DHZ7945 on April 16, 2015, 08:32:15 pm
So a 2014 sat nav card (tom tom) wont work in a 2015 facelift car. They've changed the mapping supplier. Im trying to find out the part number of the most recent card if anyone has a 2015 facelift model with nav. Thanks.
Just took mine out and printed on the SD card is:
RUS/TUR/EUR
BJM7 66 EZ1B
2566625 Rev 02
Maps by: Navteq
Made in USA
SD 49522500


If that helps
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on April 16, 2015, 10:03:31 pm
Thanks very much DHZ. I have been told by a dealer today that the sd card from mazda is............... Wait for it..............................................Only ...............£630.00 inc vat.  Don't think I will be buying one from them then. Where are you based DHZ? I have also been told that if the sd card has been in the car for approx. 60 miles it is locked to that car so theres no chance of copying one either.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: DHZ7945 on April 17, 2015, 06:27:27 am
Thanks very much DHZ. I have been told by a dealer today that the sd card from mazda is............... Wait for it..............................................Only ...............£630.00 inc vat.  Don't think I will be buying one from them then. Where are you based DHZ? I have also been told that if the sd card has been in the car for approx. 60 miles it is locked to that car so theres no chance of copying one either.
Barnsley/Doncaster South Yorkshire
Not seen a facelifted CX yet on the road, other than mine.  8)
Not done 200 miles yet tho ;D
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on April 19, 2015, 04:54:07 pm
Just up the road then in sunny Hull. Ive not seen another facelift on the road yet either. cx,s are quite rare anyway around here and everyone that you see in on always points you out to their passenger with a wave. Quite a friendly bunch.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: MikeTB on April 20, 2015, 05:36:37 pm
I paid for the TomTom Satnav on my 2013 CX5. After 3 months I was asked to pay a subscription for the Live Traffic Info. £55 a year on top of the initial £700 !!!
Does work well but how is I can buy a portable for around £150 with lifetime updates?
The price for the SD card matches the original add-on price of £700.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on May 04, 2015, 09:32:39 am
Lets try again. Found a navteq sd card on ebay lastnight for £14.00 so ive bought it and am now waiting delivery. I hope it works it's out of a 2015 car so it should do. I will keep you all posted.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on May 10, 2015, 09:22:41 pm
Oh dear. Seller mailed me and said he was having problems with the cards. I think he was just trying to clone a card he already had. Refunded my money so lets start looking again. I will get this sat nav working.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on May 21, 2015, 08:40:26 pm
And the saga continues. I ordered a navteq card off ebay on Friday. On Saturday it arrived but was a tom tom card. Emailed the seller who first told me I had read the advert wrong. Silly me, no I didn't he sent the wrong one. Received the correct one on Wednesday put it in the car and it didn't work it just said invalid sd. I removed it and updated it via mazda toolbox which took two hours. Tried it in the car and it still doesent work. I now have our it guy at work checking out the files to see if its locked to a specific vin no. I need to get this damn thing working. At least I have sold on the incorrect cards and am only out of pocket £60. and not £650. I will get my sat nav working.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Negativepitch on October 28, 2015, 01:24:47 pm
Sorry to ask again.
Can anyone tell me who the sat nav is by, as in who/what does it use TomTom etc and how fast is it.
Can you tun off the POI etc like you can on a screen mounted sat nav.
How do people find the distance to roundabout voice directions. In the Qashqai its more or less when your up on it..very late.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Deeps on October 28, 2015, 01:57:25 pm
Can't tell you anything about the in-built Tom-Tom but would still add that before finally choosing which CX-5 model I would eventually settle upon I happened upon a gentleman in an East coast carpark. He was over the moon with his newly purchased Sportline but added that the Tom-Tom was the worst piece of xxxx he'd ever come across. That wasn't the first time that I'd heard such comments and so decided against the in-built Navi and opted instead to stick with my well trusted Garmin despite having to stick it on the windscreen. Why pay extra for something that you can only use when in the car and even then don't particularly need to use for 99% of the journey's undertaken. Whilst here, I'd also recommend that you think twice about the top of the range model with it's 19" wheels. The choice for eventual tyre replacement is not all that great and in my opinion if you're going to tow anything then 17" wheels are a much better option. All the preceding is my own personal opinion of course to which others may well have particular views of their own.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on October 28, 2015, 02:13:43 pm
Sorry to ask again.
Can anyone tell me who the sat nav is by, as in who/what does it use TomTom etc and how fast is it.
Can you tun off the POI etc like you can on a screen mounted sat nav.
How do people find the distance to roundabout voice directions. In the Qashqai its more or less when your up on it..very late.
Thanks again.

Are you asking about the 2012 to 2014 model or the latest 2015 car?
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Negativepitch on October 28, 2015, 02:36:53 pm
The latest model
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Negativepitch on October 28, 2015, 02:38:22 pm
Can't tell you anything about the in-built Tom-Tom but would still add that before finally choosing which CX-5 model I would eventually settle upon I happened upon a gentleman in an East coast carpark. He was over the moon with his newly purchased Sportline but added that the Tom-Tom was the worst piece of xxxx he'd ever come across. That wasn't the first time that I'd heard such comments and so decided against the in-built Navi and opted instead to stick with my well trusted Garmin despite having to stick it on the windscreen. Why pay extra for something that you can only use when in the car and even then don't particularly need to use for 99% of the journey's undertaken. Whilst here, I'd also recommend that you think twice about the top of the range model with it's 19" wheels. The choice for eventual tyre replacement is not all that great and in my opinion if you're going to tow anything then 17" wheels are a much better option. All the preceding is my own personal opinion of course to which others may well have particular views of their own.


Thanks for that about the tyres, something to think about.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: BigAl on October 28, 2015, 03:52:45 pm
Sorry to divert off-thread, but...

The situation regarding tyres on the 19in wheels used to be quite restrictive as I found out http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=25.0 (http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=25.0)

I'm told that there are a lot more makes available in this size now, but haven't had occasion to try them out yet.

Alan
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on October 28, 2015, 04:18:52 pm
The latest model

I'm waiting for the new model due next month so only know what I've been reading on various forums.

Only two real negatives so far, no post codes which you did get with the old TT system, although I'm told you can enter the post code on the entry box for a city, I don't know if that works though.

Second thing is no sat nav speed on the screen, something I use all the time to set CC up on my present car.

There's lots of info on utube, its the same system as the Mazda 3.
Also this link will put you onto more info.

http://www.mazda.co.uk/aboutmazda/mzd-connect/

Its not TT now I believe the maps are by Navteq.

Don't be put of with 19" wheels according to the chap I bought a set of four off he said the car handled better on the 19" than the 17" he used for the winter tyres, he traded in with the 17".

There is now no shortage of replacement tyres, and even 19" winters are now available, prices have also fallen.

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl

Enter 225/55/19 for results.

Ps dealer told me all models now have nav.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Willpower on October 28, 2015, 04:33:30 pm

Second thing is no sat nav speed on the screen, something I use all the time to set CC up on my present car.


http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=182.msg886#msg886     Reply #20 onwards

It was there on earlier models. Perhaps a word with your dealership ??
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on October 28, 2015, 04:55:15 pm
That does confirm what I was trying to get over.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: BigAl on October 28, 2015, 08:51:38 pm

Second thing is no sat nav speed on the screen, something I use all the time to set CC up on my present car.


http://mazdacx5forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=182.msg886#msg886     Reply #20 onwards

It was there on earlier models. Perhaps a word with your dealership ??
That's one of the issues I have with the MZD system. The TomTom constantly displayed true speed. MZD displays the current speed limit which turns yellow if exceeded. No facility to display actual.

Alan
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Caldean on October 28, 2015, 10:02:08 pm
I too worried about the 19" wheels before buying but I can say they are not an issue in terms of comfort, refinement or handling. I'm used to the firmer set up of German cars,  but the 19s are much better all round on the CX5.  I've thought about getting winter tyres but haven't yet established whether buying 17 inch  winters and alloys would work / fit on the Spot Nav, and it's suspension  settings, not to mention the tpms.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on October 29, 2015, 07:12:39 am
17" will defiantly fit, in fact when I bought my car I was told that I could have the 17" wheels fitted, but not free which I found quite bizarre.
At the time I was concerned that I would find the 55 profile too low, having had in the past an Audi on 45 profile which was horrendous. And two Xtrails on 65 and 60 profile  which were  fine in comparison.

I had the opportunity to see two CX-5 side by side in the showroom, one on 17" the other on 19", to me the 19" looked much better. Having four test drives also confirmed the 19" were fine.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Willpower on October 29, 2015, 09:26:11 am
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j124/willpower128/Emos/620044001173394813.gif)

Could we please continue discussions regarding wheels in the appropriate Wheels and Tyres forum.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on October 29, 2015, 01:43:28 pm
So if someone asks a question we have to ignore it?
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Willpower on October 29, 2015, 01:50:26 pm
If discussions about subjects get buried in topics with an entirely different title, there is little chance that the information could be found at a later date.   

This topic is entitled Sat Nav.  if someone was looking for information about 19" wheels one it is unlikely that they would look under such a subject heading.

Further if someone was to do a search for 19" wheels, the search function would not find the information contained in this topic.

It's just good housekeeping to keep discussions in the appropriate forum.   
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on November 18, 2015, 04:24:42 pm
And the saga continues. I ordered a navteq card off ebay on Friday. On Saturday it arrived but was a tom tom card. Emailed the seller who first told me I had read the advert wrong. Silly me, no I didn't he sent the wrong one. Received the correct one on Wednesday put it in the car and it didn't work it just said invalid sd. I removed it and updated it via mazda toolbox which took two hours. Tried it in the car and it still doesent work. I now have our it guy at work checking out the files to see if its locked to a specific vin no. I need to get this damn thing working. At least I have sold on the incorrect cards and am only out of pocket £60. and not £650. I will get my sat nav working.

So what was the outcome?

Just got my car today 2015 version, and done a backup of the nav card via the toolbox.
I've also attempted to make a personal backup but the car unit just says invalid SD card.

So I have no idea how to do a back up sd card, which will be a worry out of warranty.
Anyone got any suggestions, tool box doesn't even recognize the sd card, so I copied and paste via explorer, but no joy.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: ColinX-5 on November 22, 2015, 04:21:13 pm
This how I have just done a backup copy of SD card
insurt blank SD card    switch on Mazda Toolbox 
it will say no device connected
on L/H side click Backup
it will then show list of all backups done click on Restore
a box with Heading Restore backup and under that unfortunately we couldent recogize
your device or card.  click next
new window says please select drive where you want to restore your MZD data
chose drive letter of your SD card  click OK

    And that is it...  and it works fine.
I used a 7 day shop card class 10 cheapest they do.   and am using Windows 10
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on November 22, 2015, 04:53:09 pm
Did you do the copy after the first 63 miles?
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: ColinX-5 on November 22, 2015, 05:11:45 pm
Yes in fact after 6000 miles   
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on November 22, 2015, 07:08:33 pm
Ha good I'm hoping that will sort out my problem.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: chris2301 on January 05, 2016, 10:45:40 pm
Sorry its been a while. Still no sat nav working so i gave up and sold the nav teq card. Instead ive bought a cd slot mount. Fantastic piece of kit. It holds my tom tom and my mobile phone. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Deeps on January 06, 2016, 10:31:46 am
The more I hear about this TomTom Nav business, Chris, the more pleased I am that I took the advice offered to me by a relatively old gentleman who I spoke to in a carpark whilst visiting the UK early last year. He was pleased as punch with his CX-5 but said, were it possible to rip out the Navigator he would have gladly have shipped it back to Mazda along with a few choice words. Based on his, and others advice, I specifically ordered my CX-5 without the Nav element and continue to use my Garmin unit which I can also use outside the vehicle.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on January 06, 2016, 12:21:20 pm
I have a Garmin which was no better than the TT, in fact the TT was pretty good overall, it had many features that the latest system doesn't.

What I found disappointing was the smaller screen and poorer screen resolution compared to my 2009 Xtrail nav which was great. And no TCM, you had to pay for live traffic, and it originally had a connection issue, later sorted with a TT software upgrade.

New system works has a 7" screen but although full post codes can be used, the system for some strange reason will not offer ALL the street numbers? The TT did.

With both cars I've had phone connection issues which is separate to the nav.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: ColinX-5 on January 06, 2016, 02:14:18 pm
in fact the TT was pretty good overall, it had many features that the latest system doesn't.

 originally had a connection issue, later sorted with a TT software upgrade.

Yes I liked the Tomtom once live traffic was sorted. I wish we could put a TT card into this latest model.


Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Deeps on January 06, 2016, 03:08:54 pm
I wish we could put a TT card into this latest model.

My understanding that the latest model still uses TomTom. If not, what is it then please?
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: xtrailman on January 06, 2016, 04:00:51 pm
Uses Navteq maps.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Deeps on January 06, 2016, 04:07:04 pm
Uses Navteq maps.

Ah, same as Garmin then. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Huxie on January 07, 2016, 08:47:15 pm
Sorry its been a while. Still no sat nav working so i gave up and sold the nav teq card. Instead ive bought a cd slot mount. Fantastic piece of kit. It holds my tom tom and my mobile phone. Problem solved.

Any chance you could link to the particular CD slot mount that you bought? Loads of generic ones on eBay but always good to get a recommendation from someone who has one.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Deeps on January 07, 2016, 10:52:59 pm
Whilst attending the annual Camping and Caravan show last January in Stuttgart there was a chap by the name of Steve Welham who had a small stand there. His claim to fame was as the Director/Founder of a UK company called Organise My Car and at the time was demonstrating what the leaflet describes as the British Invention of the Year which is a CD slot Mount having the ability to hold multiple devices - Mobile Phone, SatNav and Mp3 players etc.

The website is http://www.organisemycar.com/ but unfortunately it's not showing the device at this time. Maybe he's run out or they've stopped selling them, I've no idea. It might be worth giving him a call though and check and the business card that I have shows his number to be 07468 612050 with an address in Clacton on Sea, Essex if that's any good to you. There's another telephone on the website contact page which reads 0330 22 33 108

I was pretty impressed myself really and was going to buy one. As it happens we got so bogged down with other things at the show that we'd long since left when I suddenly remembered.
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: BigAl on January 08, 2016, 10:04:51 am
For what it's worth, I've always used Brodit mounting brackets for cars for about the last 10 years (inc all our company cars). All purpose made for specific vehicles, they have a variety of positions for each then you select the device holder to fit that. very good quality, the CX5 ones are here:-
http://www.brodit.com/productList.html?lrhandDrive=rhd&brand=Mazda&model=CX-5&year=2015&pn=prod (http://www.brodit.com/productList.html?lrhandDrive=rhd&brand=Mazda&model=CX-5&year=2015&pn=prod)
Available in the UK from various sources, but I generally use DSL Developments:-
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/ (http://www.dsldevelopments.com/)

Don't think the make a CD slot one though...

Alan
Title: Re: Sat nav
Post by: Huxie on January 09, 2016, 06:12:20 pm
Many thanks Deeps and BigAl for the replies.

The Brodit looks reassuringly robust and reviews are good, only downside for me is the lack of portability. I occasionally hire cars for work and currently just swap over my windscreen mount.

The CD slot mount seems to fit the bill for me, I like the 3 device mount positions. Decided to give that a go and ordered from what appears to be the same bloke at www.cdslotmount.com (http://www.cdslotmount.com)

Thanks again.